305pelusa
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Yes, the Muscle-up, just like a regular dip, requires some amount of mobility as well. Not as much as a German hang but good nonetheless.Good choice! Though one could argue that you need pretty good shoulder extension for the transition in a clean, strict muscle up, and you would get a stretch into flexion at the bottom of the hang. I think I've seen clips of Ido Portal doing a "360-push" (my name for it); basically starting in a victorian and moving all the way through a 90-degree pushup. Super advanced though.
I'm not sure what you mean by that second exercise. Ido can't do a Victorian. Are you talking about a straight-body handstand press from support?
If so, the above exercise is just taking a 90 degree pushup, and adds another 90 degrees. So perhaps a 180 push haha. It is all pushing however.
If you mean you don't have enough clearance to go through the inverted hang when extended, I would say two things:I don't have the setup for that but I can see its value. I guess people could hold the positions and use a tuck for a regression.
1) Most of us don't either. You can do the full Front Lever pull, tuck to get through and then extend back. Do the same on the way back. A little tedious but you get used to it. Rings are ideal to let you switch into underhand for the back lever but not required.
2) You might want to hold your horses. Most strong individuals will have serious trouble just doing the fully tucked version any ways, so clearing your feet is no problem. I don't know your level of fitness but you're talking about older trainees so I wouldn't worry about the fully extended or straddle versions any time soon.