Marcus Aurelius
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I saw this dude originally on Joe Rogan and was intrigued. I'll never do it but I thought it would be interesting to share. He claims all of his athletic endeavors has improved. It's quite amazing if true.
Thanks for thinking about me!The only person I've seen on this forum who has at least tried (is still trying?) this WOE is @LoriLifts (Mentioned here). I'm curious how its going.
IDK bout that. The Bellevue experiment proved you could go a year with no real deficiencies, but it left the participants with a severe glucose intolerance.
Inuit at the time did not show a glucose intolerance to the same testing, but the Bellevue participants added more fat than the typical Inuit diet of the folks being used as a control.
No thanks.
We can eat meat, but we are definitely not carnivorous apes.
Totally. Some of the good arguments I've heard is that we really don't have any carnivorous tools on our bodies. We have to make weapons in order to hunt. If we were truly meant to eat allot of meat, we would have claws or something.
We absolutely are very adaptable and opportunistic, and another factor that challenges any neat conclusion is that homo sapiens evolved entirely after the discovery of controlled firemaking. Boiling, baking etc etc release a lot of additional nutrition from many foods, and also make smoking of meats possible - without which there are very few environments meat can be stored safely. Is not really possible to say what our "natural" diet might be when you combine long distance traveling with an animal that can make fire AND weapons with which to hunt and prepare tougher root veg, tubers, starchy grains etc.
That said, there are no known indigenous peoples who survived on just meat. Even neanderthal ate estimated 30% minimum veg, so is definitely an experimental (as in not naturally occurring) diet.
The perfect diet is what agrees with you and is available I guess. I do eat meat but not as a staple. I suspect people are far more individual in what our optimum diet might be than the vast majority of natural environments could possibly accommodate.
100% carnivore is imho the same extreme as 100% vegan.
Pavel says: "meat for strength, vegetables for health" - and I could not agree more.
% may differ from person to person, or time/season to time/season.
Do you have any thoughts on the claims/research out there that suggests that meat consumption may have negative effects on human health? E.g. cancer, heart disease, etc.
I'm not @Pavel Macek (obviously), but I wanted to throw a great resource out there. To my thinking Dr. Rhonda Patrick has the most balanced view out there. She has a whole podcast episode called Does Meat Consumption Cause Cancer?. Also, here's a snippet from the JRE podcast where she talks about the issue:
Eat food, food you like, enjoy life...I love the JRE. I have actually seen that clip before, thank you for drawing it to my attention again.
I just find it fascinating but also frustrating to hear both sides, as there are people who put forth such assertive and convincing arguments both for and against meat consumption. It's hard to know what I should really be eating...
Pavel, you have spoken quite a lot in the past about being a fan of eating lots of meat. Do you have any thoughts on the claims/research out there that suggests that meat consumption may have negative effects on human health? E.g. cancer, heart disease, etc.
I would very much like to hear your views on meat and how it impacts health.
I just find it fascinating but also frustrating to hear both sides, as there are people who put forth such assertive and convincing arguments both for and against meat consumption. It's hard to know what I should really be eating...
Eat food, food you like, enjoy life...