Is anaerobic training totally crazy?

[nickster]

A person can only do so much training. And this is especially true for athletes who care about results. Anaerobic training is most taxing, destroys the body, and significantly limits the amount of other training an athlete can do. So "use it or lose it" in this context actually has a very different meaning then what you intend: this terroristic training forces an athlete to lose out on their more important training.

True, only can do so much training.
What I was trying to say is if you don't train anaerobic, you lose capacity in that area. But maybe that doesn't matter to your goals.

"Anaerobic training is most taxing,"
I think it's the "easiest" thing to make taxing, forgive the poor phrasing. You can really beat the heck out of yourself in 20-30 minutes of anaerobic training.
But you can also overtax any other mode. Run too long at a low aerobic rate and you're still overtrained. Do too many sets or too high of weight at the opposite end of spectrum, also over taxing. It's just that it can be "harder" to be too hard on yourself in those modes. But you can do it if you put your mind to it!


What is your sport of choice?

 

[Adachi]

Anaerobic training is most taxing, destroys the body, and significantly limits the amount of other training an athlete can do.

Or, in certain doses, it makes you bigger, stronger, faster.

And this is especially true for athletes who care about results.

Or, it depends on what results you are after.

this terroristic training forces an athlete to lose out on their more important training.

Or, it depends on what you deem important.

High power with long rests is the recipe for anaerobic power pursuits like sprinting.

I have been doing nothing but Anaerobic training for 18 weeks. My muscles are larger, stronger, and more enduring.

Here is the money shot.

32kg bell, my "S" bell per S&S. (Whatever yours is, use that)
Swings, and explosive pushups
2 sessions per week (a light day , and a heavy day. )
2 or 4 sets per session
15 or 20 reps per set
5 minutes between repeats.

e.g.
0:00 - 15 swings
5:00 - 15 pushups
repeat 2 or 4 times for the day. 5 if you're feeling spry on a heavy day.

add some cardio on your off days if you want to.
try it for 6 to 12 weeks.
after 6 weeks up the sets to 20 reps.
Let me know how destroyed you are.

 

[bluejeff]

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But seriously.

OP:
A great deal of Pavel's work is geared towards people who have other physically demanding obligations outside of training like law enforcement, military, emergency services, fighters, etc. He also uses a lot of hyperbole and witty writing to make his point. The alactic/ "non-glycolytic" approach is well-suited to these people, as it does leave them fresher for other training. That said, they no doubt find themselves using glycolysis from time to time. The body does not suddenly flip a switch and decide to stop using one energy system and move to another. It is more of a spectrum. It would behoove you to go read some literature on the energy systems from a scientific source (like a textbook) rather than a training manual before proclaiming that a fundamental energy system in the body is "toxic." All the systems in the body are linked in some way, and it makes almost zero sense to say that we have an energy system that it somehow toxic to us.

As someone else pointed out, you can overdo any kind of training. there is a big difference between doing 3-5 sets of 10-15 reps to get a pump (anaerobic....especially with shorter rests) and going all out to failure and beyond on everything you do (what Pavel might call an "acid bath"). There is also a big difference between doing either of those things once or twice a week and doing it every training session. As multiple people pointed out, different training styles deliver different adaptations. If you need to stay fresh for a physical job or other sport, then A+A, or otherwise alactic training is probably good for you. If you just want to get huge, then do what huge people do (hint, it is often anaerobic).

Speaking of being huge and going anaerobic, wouldn't the "Russian Bear program" from PTTP leave you in an anaerobic state? It recommends 90 second or less rest periods, at a heavy weight, at that. Good luck not going anaerobic at all doing 10 sets like that.

 

[Simply strong]

When your body produces energy anaerobically, for each glucose, you get 2 energy ATP. When you do it aerobically, you get 35 ATP. So using your aerobic energy system is literally 15x more efficient.

Is anaerobic training totally crazy? Why on earth would anyone want to spend time here burning themselves out and feeling tired, when they could build up their amazingly efficient aerobic system or using the super powerful ATP-PC.

For instance, a quick google search shows that in football the average play is 4 seconds. That is not even anaerobic glycolysis, that would be ATP-PC for maximum kick butt power.

The only time you need this dumb anaerobic glycolysis system is for max efforts of 30 seconds. That is totally crazy. Almost no sport that people actually care about has plays like that except for maybe UFC. Do we need to start checking people into the crazy house if they are training in intervals of max effort at 20-50 seconds?

Depends on the sport. If you need to produce 20-50 seconds of max effort the only way to get good at it is to train max efforts for 20-50 seconds.

 

[Simply strong]

Thinking about it; If your a 400 meter runner it’s not exactly possible to avoid max efforts for 20-50 seconds.

 

[Chris Mills]

How many seconds does it take LeBron James to fake one way, dribble to the hoop and slam dunk, is that a 45 second move?

Isn’t he then (theoretically) supposed to RUN back and play……DEFENSE???