Kettlebell Red Zone and S&S

[Cyrus-II]

Bottom-up getups regular or reverse sounds a little bit to much for me. Im just trying to imagine how it would end if that bell would flip inwards when I would be lying on the ground.. but continous reverse getups was a real challenge.

It was more of a muse regarding bottoms up 24KG TGU's. I tested doing bottoms up with my 16KG some weeks back. They are definitely a whole new level for grip strength for sure. And the weight is higher, so strong stabilizer muscles become even more critical.

So, I am nowhere close to having BU TGU's down, even with the 16KG...I guess my point is that weight progression is not the be all, end all.

 

[Pete L]

What do you mean by this please @Huyovas ?

instead of doing regular getups, I did reverse getups with c&p

Clean, press, then get down?
Did you try putting C&P in the middle to split the TGU in two?
e.g. Get up, rack bell, clean, press up, get down?

 

[watchnerd]

This then leads back to beastly get-ups, if one maintains the ability to do all the parts of the get-up with a decent weight. (If one stops doing get-ups altogether and gets much stronger in other movements, they might not be able to go back and do beastly get-ups due to a few weak links. That describes me, currently. I need more get-ups back in my program!)

I "skipped levels" a lot in TGUs when I would stop doing TGUs, do some other strength work, and then come back to TGUs.

One time I went up 8 kg without doing any TGUs at all for 12 weeks.

(To clarify: I didn't jump to a 8 kg higher weight on first attempt back at TGUs. But I worked my way up from prior weight to 8 kg more in about 4 or 5 sessions.)

 

[Bronius]

What do you mean by this please @Huyovas ?

Clean, press, then get down?
Did you try putting C&P in the middle to split the TGU in two?
e.g. Get up, rack bell, clean, press up, get down?

Yes, that is what I meant - clean press and getdown, apologies if I wasnt clear enough.
I remember when I was reaching simple, the getups was the easy part for me, so I could easily do 5/5 otm getups with 32 kg long before I could swing it comfortably with one arm.. so I added all sort of things to getups, like doing a regural getup to standing phase, walking with the kettlebell overhead to the other side of the gym, and only than getting down, or doing reverse getups as mentioned earlier. I also tried to add a c&p in the middle, but after racking and presing the kettlebell I was getting shaky and losing tension to safelly get down, so I skipped those.

 

[Bronius]

It was more of a muse regarding bottoms up 24KG TGU's. I tested doing bottoms up with my 16KG some weeks back. They are definitely a whole new level for grip strength for sure. And the weight is higher, so strong stabilizer muscles become even more critical.

So, I am nowhere close to having BU TGU's down, even with the 16KG...I guess my point is that weight progression is not the be all, end all.

I wouldnt even try those. Safety first