S&S 2.0 out now on kindle

CMHoward

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Read it and liked what I saw. Watched Pavel with Rogan and liked what I heard.
I was doing S&S, was on my fifth month and proceeding nicely. Got up to swings with the 40kg and was working on TGUs with the same when I lost it on my left side on the last part of the movement (steps 12 and 13 for those who use a 14 step process with the TGU). Trying (stupidly) to save it I managed to damage my Deltoid to Humerus attachment point.
I'm certain it was due to my:
1. Ego--trying to get to the Sinister way too quickly
2. Doing the "Standard" every workout.

So...lesson learned as I'm benched for a few weeks waiting for this thing to heal. (Any tried and true rehab pointers would be appreciated). (I have full range, but sharp soreness when raising overhead or extending and lifting up). Pain/trigger point is just above midway up the upper arm, directly between the bicep and triceps.

Takeaways:
Less is more
Never go to failure
Allow adequate rest periods
"Owning" a particular KB on a particular movement is a far taller bar than most of us think.
 

Oskarand

Double-Digit Post Count
I have asked myself the same question. Two hypotheses:
H1) Pavel regarded it as a distraction from S&S' simplicity. Like you say, maybe because of mouth-breathing.
H2) Pavel is working on a book featuring highlights from Second Wind and plans to include Straw Breathing in there.

Both hypotheses might be proven wrong. I will of course not give up hope on the second hypothesis :)
I hope H2 is right! Would love to hear his thoughts on breathing.
 

Mark Limbaga

Quadruple-Digit Post Count
Elite Certified Instructor
Read it and liked what I saw. Watched Pavel with Rogan and liked what I heard.
I was doing S&S, was on my fifth month and proceeding nicely. Got up to swings with the 40kg and was working on TGUs with the same when I lost it on my left side on the last part of the movement (steps 12 and 13 for those who use a 14 step process with the TGU). Trying (stupidly) to save it I managed to damage my Deltoid to Humerus attachment point.
I'm certain it was due to my:
1. Ego--trying to get to the Sinister way too quickly
2. Doing the "Standard" every workout.

So...lesson learned as I'm benched for a few weeks waiting for this thing to heal. (Any tried and true rehab pointers would be appreciated). (I have full range, but sharp soreness when raising overhead or extending and lifting up). Pain/trigger point is just above midway up the upper arm, directly between the bicep and triceps.

Takeaways:
Less is more
Never go to failure
Allow adequate rest periods
"Owning" a particular KB on a particular movement is a far taller bar than most of us think.
Yep the second one is definitely where we tend to graze the target at best
 

Nacho

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It`s been roughly 2,5 months since the new version came out.
Until then, I was working with 24kg trying to reduce the rest little by little but I felt like I was bit stuck. Read the new version of the book and made few changes.

-Pass the talk test before every set
-Use chalk
-2h swings on every other session
-Timeless progression: 2 week steps with adding 4kg/2sets on each step

This has really been a game changer for me. Next sunday I will leave last remaining 2 sets with 24kg (which feels vey light now) and so all Im using is 28 for both exercises. 28 feels like 24 now. Cant wait to get my hands on 32, and since I found a good deal, I have 36 already staring at me in corner as well. :)

My grip, abs, glutes, shoulders... and everything basically has gotten much stronger while moving from 24 to 28. I didn’t expect such an improvement since its ”only” 4kg but I dont mind. ;)

Such a great update to already great book and program!
 

LejonBrames

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Maybe I should do 2HS every other session rather than every third session. I have this callus right where my middle finger meets my hand and it just feels like it's getting rubbed up bit by bit on 1HS.

I think I'll do that for a few weeks. Excited to be working with 24k full time.
 

Molson

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Maybe I should do 2HS every other session rather than every third session. I have this callus right where my middle finger meets my hand and it just feels like it's getting rubbed up bit by bit on 1HS.

I think I'll do that for a few weeks. Excited to be working with 24k full time.
It’s a good plan. Hands can be the most limiting factor when swinging 5-7 days a week. The 24-32kg period is really teaching you hand care the hard way.
 

PDM32

My Third Post
This is a good quote from near the end (emphasis added):


In that section he also advises after Timeless Simple to take a "detour into barbell strength", specifically deadlift, military press, and squat, to make the Beast (48kg) feel like a toy if/when you revisit S&S to continue working up the weight past 32kg (for men).

I started deadlifting for the first time the summer after I had worked up to 32kg as my work weight for swings and getups over the previous winter/spring, while I was trying to compress the rest periods to get the time standard. I have really enjoyed my deadlift development since then (and other experience with the other barbell lifts), and I do credit S&S for a solid strength and power foundation for that work.
I’ve read through 2.0 a couple times, I’m still wondering - when trying to maintain with two talk-test regulates sessions a week, should these sessions be done with the “simple” weight (32kg for men) or one bell size heavier to maintain the reserve of strength that we’re encouraged to build?
 
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