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How many diamond pushups before one arm pushup progressions?

Antti said:
I'll be the odd bird and think outside the box.

I've personally seen many powerlifters be able to do good one arm push-ups on their first try, and even the big and fat ones. And their bench numbers aren't that great, I think 300-400lbs in general. I suppose something else must come into play. Pavel was always big into powerlifting, and I suppose this could be one example why.
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Not to mention strongmen doing human flag. Rauno has 1000+lbs deadlift.

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human flag, body weight 142kg/313lb

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Hung said:
About 10-15 I guess? I can did an all out but strict 10 reps pull up before I can cheat one arm pull up (last 3/4 ROM) but not from fully hang.
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That would be VERY unusual. Most people will struggle with a half one arm pull up (from 90°) even after being able to do 25 reps with two hands, or 10 reps with an extra 25% of bodyweight strapped to them. And with the one arm pull-up, it's even more extreme than with the one arm push-up, where you can off-load more tension to other muscles, while that is very limited in the one arm pull-up. It would be similar to being able to do a pistol after being able to do only 10 reps in the full squat. 10 reps typically means 80-90% of 1 RM, I've never heard about a case where it was 50-60%. Are you by any chance referring to a one hand pull up (free hand holding the wrist)?
 
Period said:
That would be VERY unusual. Most people will struggle with a half one arm pull up (from 90°) even after being able to do 25 reps with two hands, or 10 reps with an extra 25% of bodyweight strapped to them. And with the one arm pull-up, it's even more extreme than with the one arm push-up, where you can off-load more tension to other muscles, while that is very limited in the one arm pull-up. It would be similar to being able to do a pistol after being able to do only 10 reps in the full squat. 10 reps typically means 80-90% of 1 RM, I've never heard about a case where it was 50-60%. Are you by any chance referring to a one hand pull up (free hand holding the wrist)?
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I have to start at the position where I have a best leverage, not from the start
 
Hung said:

I have to start at the position where I have a best leverage, not from the start
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Still, that is HIGHLY unsual! I think that is the lowest number of pull-ups I ever heard anybody having before even beginning to work on a OACH, let alone be close to getting it. Case in point, I was able to do 50 reps in the normal pull-up and get one rep with an extra 65 kg (about 85% of my bodyweight) strapped to me, and did several months of specific training before I was able to do what you did there. Needless to say, it took me over a decade to get to that point. Now granted, it was never my main focus, and I had a number of non-related elbow injuries hampering my process in the one-arm pull-up, but still.
So either you have an extreme amount of fast twitch muscle, or you were undercutting your performance in the regular pull-up somehow (extremely slow execution or something).
 
Period said:
either you have an extreme amount of fast twitch muscle, or you were undercutting your performance in the regular pull-up somehow (extremely slow execution or something
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I just bored to death doing higher rep than 5...even with swing.

About 3/4 oac...I saw many people did it in my training group so for me it's normal. Which probably explain why I can do that.

During that time, I did ROP with 20 and 25 kg bell. I was curious about a guy in the book who did one arm press and was able to one arm chins. So I tried
 
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