silveraw
Level 8 Valued Member
For sure, bad advice is the most common advice. Everyone eats and everyone has an opinion on it for what works. I've seen some otherwise smart people give very dumb advice. You can always tell when someone's fat loss experience is losing 10lbs once for a competition and otherwise have stayed the same weight their entire adult lives by their advice.As to what calories in calories out does or does not demand...
While calories in calories out doesn't I'm and of itself declare, therefore counting calories is how one should proceed... I had about 100% hit rate of asking for diet advice and getting told things like eat less move more , or cut your plate in half. Or some such thing. It was every where. I got it from my family , my PT NCO , my friends who were obviously getting results in the gym , and everything I was seeing in the media, as I was searching for a better way forward.
It was an attractive model for sure. I went really far into it a decade ago when it was first getting huge. My wife is actually a case study in one of the best selling keto cookbooks on amazon. (predictably, results were not permanent... which in hindsight, depending on a diet plan that requires 3 hours of cooking every day isn't sustainable for someone running a business).As to those who are married to the carb insulin model...
I'll go ahead and claim that I'm not exactly married to the carb insulin model per se. For example, the carb insulin model is actually currently under threat of replacement by the seed oils narrative
As far as the seed oils thing goes... I went down that rabbit hole a couple years ago, swapped all cooking oils with animal fats and made sure to stay away from PUFAs. End result was blood lipids going the wrong way and no change to fat loss. Followed by a deep dive into if seed oils really are bad. Found quite a few studies showing they are at worst neutral compared to animal fats, and may be beneficial.
But focusing on elimination of seed oils that would fix some unknown issues caused by inflammation took my eye off the ball and weight started creeping back up again. Plus it is just stupidly expensive and didn't do anything good for me health-wise.
I've got nothing against fasting, low carb, carnivore, whatever (ok, maybe carnivore just because the health implications against it are decently strong, but it is a grudge at this point since there aren't any quality studies done on carnivore yet.). They are all tools that can help people reduce calories. They don't work for all people. I put on 20lbs doing keto really easy.As to complications from fasting...
I believe that all models have some applicable domain, and there are likely cases that live outside of that domain. I see that fasting is most applicable as a healthful practice when the most adipose is available to fuel daily activity. I personally know cross fitters , females , who ended up having trouble with their monthly cycles, and added carbs back in and felt much better after. I don't think fasting or low carb or carnivore or, you name it , are all things to all people. But when I know that it is a model that works, and what it works for... I may be inclined to defend it's virtue.
I just have an issue when people try to explain diets as having some magical properties that clearly don't exist. And there are so many charlatans promoting whatever new diet is out there. Like that Carnivore MD guy, he carefully explains all these mechanistic functions of why it is healthy and the "one true diet", but there are plenty of RCTs in humans showing that many of those mechanisms don't produce the result he claims. Or worse Liver King. He promotes Carnivore and primal living as the secret to his physique. Of course it comes out that his PED budget is over 11k a month and he also eats sugar and sweet potatoes because carbs are important when running crazy steroid cycles for muscle growth.
But end of the day, if what works for you works, then it doesn't matter what the reasons are behind it. Who knows, next year someone could come out with a study that discovers some unknown mechanism that completely changes our understanding of why things work.
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