Oscar
Level 7 Valued Member
Are intermediate kettlebells of 4 kg jumps, good or bad in the context of S&S?
For men, Pavel prescribes 8 kg jumps: 24, 32, 40 and 48. I have been working with the 24 for 1 year and already achieved the time standards. The thing is, I have made 3 attempts to start including the 32, but the 3 times I ended up with issues that made me regress to the 24. The three times I started conservatively, including the 32 in 4 sets of 5, mixed with my 24 kg practice. I did this for a few weeks, but then developed some muscle tightness on my shoulder blade the first two attempts, and a minor strain in my glute the 3rd occasion.
I recently bought a 28 kg, not for S&S, but because I think it will be a good size for snatching in the future (thanks @Steve W. for this idea). Argentina is entering a crisis and kettlebells might dissapear, so I thought I rather buy it now. I hadnt used it for S&S because I´m stubborn and want to do the 8 kg jump by the book, specially to learn whatever I have to learn in the process. The thing is, the other day I had to do a S&S practice with the 28 and it felt just right. Given the issues I´ve been having with the 32, I´m wondering if I´d be better off progressing to the 28.
Some more background info: 34 yo, 73 kg bodyweight, no relevant injuries while working with the 24 lately. I havent had issues with the TGU and can do 8 out of 10 with the 32 already. The problem is with the swings. I´ve had my technique checked here at the forum and also by an SFG and it seems to be ok, for TGU and swings with the 24 and 32.
So here are some questions I have about the 8 kg jumps, for my particular case and in a more philosophical sense as well:
1. In S&S, 4 kg jumps are a good idea or not?
2. Is there any advantage in 8 kg jumps, aside from not having to buy the intermediate weight?
3. 4 kg jumps seem almost like a must for presses and snatches. I can snatch and press the 24, but eventually jumping to the 32 doesnt seem practical/sensible/doable. So buying intermediate weights would be useful for these exercises in the future anyway?
4. Bodyweight is probably very relevant to this question. Asking a 45 kg lady to jump from 16 to 24 kg sounds very difficult, while the jump from 24 to 32 for a 100 kg man might be accessible. In my case, at 73 kg, it appears that the 32 is a significant weight.
5. Isnt it safer to do 4 kg jumps than 8 kg jumps? wouldnt we be pushing it when jumping 8 kg?
I'll take the opportunity to drop here a thread were intermediate weights were discussed.
Large Jump KB Program Order
Large Jumps In Kettlebell Sizes
For men, Pavel prescribes 8 kg jumps: 24, 32, 40 and 48. I have been working with the 24 for 1 year and already achieved the time standards. The thing is, I have made 3 attempts to start including the 32, but the 3 times I ended up with issues that made me regress to the 24. The three times I started conservatively, including the 32 in 4 sets of 5, mixed with my 24 kg practice. I did this for a few weeks, but then developed some muscle tightness on my shoulder blade the first two attempts, and a minor strain in my glute the 3rd occasion.
I recently bought a 28 kg, not for S&S, but because I think it will be a good size for snatching in the future (thanks @Steve W. for this idea). Argentina is entering a crisis and kettlebells might dissapear, so I thought I rather buy it now. I hadnt used it for S&S because I´m stubborn and want to do the 8 kg jump by the book, specially to learn whatever I have to learn in the process. The thing is, the other day I had to do a S&S practice with the 28 and it felt just right. Given the issues I´ve been having with the 32, I´m wondering if I´d be better off progressing to the 28.
Some more background info: 34 yo, 73 kg bodyweight, no relevant injuries while working with the 24 lately. I havent had issues with the TGU and can do 8 out of 10 with the 32 already. The problem is with the swings. I´ve had my technique checked here at the forum and also by an SFG and it seems to be ok, for TGU and swings with the 24 and 32.
So here are some questions I have about the 8 kg jumps, for my particular case and in a more philosophical sense as well:
1. In S&S, 4 kg jumps are a good idea or not?
2. Is there any advantage in 8 kg jumps, aside from not having to buy the intermediate weight?
3. 4 kg jumps seem almost like a must for presses and snatches. I can snatch and press the 24, but eventually jumping to the 32 doesnt seem practical/sensible/doable. So buying intermediate weights would be useful for these exercises in the future anyway?
4. Bodyweight is probably very relevant to this question. Asking a 45 kg lady to jump from 16 to 24 kg sounds very difficult, while the jump from 24 to 32 for a 100 kg man might be accessible. In my case, at 73 kg, it appears that the 32 is a significant weight.
5. Isnt it safer to do 4 kg jumps than 8 kg jumps? wouldnt we be pushing it when jumping 8 kg?
I'll take the opportunity to drop here a thread were intermediate weights were discussed.
Large Jump KB Program Order
Large Jumps In Kettlebell Sizes