Strong Endurance Strong Endurance Express!

[Adachi]

For those of us who have not had the pleasure of a Strong Endurance Seminar, (I have perused the materials and am going through the videos now) I can tell you that this does cover the Meat and Potatoes of the course, and will help provide you with the context and understanding necessary to engage in a range of protocols under the Strong Endurance Paradigm.

It is much cheaper than the seminar and touches all the bases of training and performance from a strong endurance perspective.

While it is not quite as in-depth on the biochemistry and discussion of its relationship to the electron transport chain, a broad range of issues around training and performance are explored.

It is available via Skilltrain at the below link.

StrongFirst: Training Center

strongfirst.skilltrain.com

 

[conor78]

I’ll have to invest in this..looks really good

 

[Adachi]

I’ll have to invest in this..looks really good

as i'm listening - the video carries the weight of the written product explaining the relevant biomechanics that are part of the backdrop of Strong Endurance's perscriptions.

as far as i know a great many physicians or physiologists will know all this from some of their easier classes, but, Pavel has his own perspective on where Strong Endurance's programming has interests that draw on that backdrop of basic info of the chemistry and cellular activity involved.

it is VERY good.

 

[Anders]

If I have already participated in a strong first endurance seminar will it still be worthwhile to buy this product ?

 

[Adachi]

If I have already participated in a strong first endurance seminar will it still be worthwhile to buy this product ?

I think I like it because I'll be a repeat viewer, and the course material is ... slightly tweaked and slightly summarized compared to the paper copy of the Strong Endurance Manual I received after attending the course online. HOWEVER... I would say, if you are ... say ... 80-90% or completely satisfied with your understanding of Strong Endurance, and your ability to use it in your training, I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole. it is definitely a tweaked presentation of all the same principles ideas and protocols. But, if you kinda have lingering questions and issues that aren't quite clear to you, now is the time to enroll and ask questions in the class, and get them answered. And maybe, some of these explanations will help answer some of those questions via the videos, without posting additional questions.

I appreciate it as a product, for myself, insofar as I have a preference for spoken word these days and I will be able to listen back at future times to reinforce some of the "sayings" and comparisons used to illustrate some of the ideas. I intend to steal these analogies and illustrations for my explanations to others that I've talked to about this stuff; in my personal life. I am not exactly benefitted in that way by the Strong Endurance Manual, which I've read cover to cover 6 times now(and referenced many more times). the more academic presentation does leave me with some ponderings from time to time, as you are dealing with some of the raw materials that construct the paradigm. but, the video presentation is much more assertive about what it intends to impress upon the viewer, so far.

It is much more a difference of style than substance, between the "express product" and the "seminar product". The really nitty gritty details are still reserved for the seminar. The Express product sits between the seminar and the book Q&D or AXE. But just as Q&D really is. In my view, a distillate of all the most important parts (for most normal people) of the strong endurance seminar, so too does the seminar strip away a bit of the baggage of biochemistry and cellular machinery.

To try out an analogy of my own,

If the Q&D is a straight Kentucky bourbon, and Axe is like a small batch rye, then maybe the express product is like a cask strength release, and the seminar is the top-shelf stuff, aged 20 years.​

 

[Bauer]

After scanning the 66 page manual and the modules: This might be called Strong Endurance Express, but in a way it might also be called AXE Masterclass. Definitely answers a lot of the questions from the AXE megathread (where Pavel was already patient and kind enough to answer).

 

[Jash]

I think I like it because I'll be a repeat viewer, and the course material is ... slightly tweaked and slightly summarized compared to the paper copy of the Strong Endurance Manual I received after attending the course online. HOWEVER... I would say, if you are ... say ... 80-90% or completely satisfied with your understanding of Strong Endurance, and your ability to use it in your training, I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole. it is definitely a tweaked presentation of all the same principles ideas and protocols. But, if you kinda have lingering questions and issues that aren't quite clear to you, now is the time to enroll and ask questions in the class, and get them answered. And maybe, some of these explanations will help answer some of those questions via the videos, without posting additional questions.

I appreciate it as a product, for myself, insofar as I have a preference for spoken word these days and I will be able to listen back at future times to reinforce some of the "sayings" and comparisons used to illustrate some of the ideas. I intend to steal these analogies and illustrations for my explanations to others that I've talked to about this stuff; in my personal life. I am not exactly benefitted in that way by the Strong Endurance Manual, which I've read cover to cover 6 times now(and referenced many more times). the more academic presentation does leave me with some ponderings from time to time, as you are dealing with some of the raw materials that construct the paradigm. but, the video presentation is much more assertive about what it intends to impress upon the viewer, so far.

It is much more a difference of style than substance, between the "express product" and the "seminar product". The really nitty gritty details are still reserved for the seminar. The Express product sits between the seminar and the book Q&D or AXE. But just as Q&D really is. In my view, a distillate of all the most important parts (for most normal people) of the strong endurance seminar, so too does the seminar strip away a bit of the baggage of biochemistry and cellular machinery.

To try out an analogy of my own,

If the Q&D is a straight Kentucky bourbon, and Axe is like a small batch rye, then maybe the express product is like a cask strength release, and the seminar is the top-shelf stuff, aged 20 years.​

Thanks for sharing your experience. I haven't bought the express course yet but I did participate in a Strong Endurance seminar in 2020 (manual is the 4.0 version). Looking through the course outline it looks like Strong Endurance Express is useful and insightful as a refresher course of sorts. There’s modules that integrate the new AXE program and insights from All-Terrain Conditioning through the Metal Heart program. That stuff didn’t formally exist as it does now when I took the seminar in 2020. It’s kind of like my military medic training where I don't get sent back through an entire medical course to re-cert, I just get sent to a short refresher course and Strong Endurance Express appears to be like that.

On another note, I'll be purchasing the course shortly and be integrating it into my train up for a US Army National Guard Best Warrior Competition where I'll be competing for the title in my State. Strong Endurance principles already helped me a lot with the "ruck" ("hump" for you Marines) portion of a modified Army Combat Fitness Test:

1. Mile lap at 16:04 min/mi
2. Mile lap at 14:50 min/mi
3. Mile lap at 13:47 min/mi

That’s a 3-mile ruck that replaced the standard 2-mile run, with 45 lb loaded into the rucksack. I just acted like a freight train getting progressively faster each lap, which I credit to Strong Endurance's anti-glycolytic methods helping me buffer the fairly glycolytic events that preceded the ruck (and my lack of sleep beforehand, ha).

Remarkable also as a prior Air Force commando (Tactical Air Control Party Specialist) had to run to catch up with me. My Physical Therapy medical officer even found it remarkable which felt good since he's a competitive runner. I was very lucid, “aerobic” and not out of breath by the end. While other participants had to sit down to catch their breath, I was able to converse easily and move on fairly quickly to the next set of events. (All-Terrain Conditioning principles helped with that, thanks @Derek Toshner )

 

[HarryBergers]

After scanning the 66 page manual and the modules: This might be called Strong Endurance Express, but in a way it might also be called AXE Masterclass. Definitely answers a lot of the questions from the AXE megathread (where Pavel was already patient and kind enough to answer).

Is there double kettlebell axe programming demystification within?

 

[Erik W]

After having attended SE Express years ago and getting serious about this style of training with Speed Metal, I jumped at the opportunity to save a chunk of change on the regular price of this product. I'm very excited to review the videos and check my understanding of this topic.

 

[Adachi]

Is there double kettlebell axe programming demystification within?

I'm not sure how mystical axe training with doubles can be. What would be different from singles?

 

[Bauer]

Is there double kettlebell axe programming demystification within?

I haven't watched the videos yet. There are Glycolitic Power Repeats plans with Double LCCJs, and some Snatch plans give you the option of Double KB Swings. Not sure if that helps.

 

[HarryBergers]

I'm not sure how mystical axe training with doubles can be. What would be different from singles?

I wouldn't know. This was a question that wasn't answered in the AXE general discussion, because it required.. something like this product, I think was the jist of the answer given.

Edit: a hint that was given was that, iirc, Motz has been on AXE for several years, and his 3x lccj otm A+A sessions may be an AXE protocol.

 

[ItemB]

How would strong endurance express compare to say all terrain conditioning? Since ATC says it's strong endurance without all the science.

 

[Mark Limbaga]

Seriously hoping the introductory price can hang on til I get my next paycheck as I was originally planning on attending a strong endurance course before the pandemic hit and derailed that plan

 

[Luis T. Gonzalez]

Is there double kettlebell axe programming demystification within?

This is an article about double kb A+A. Basically 1-3 reps Emom for 10-30 minutes 2-3 days per week.

Clean and Jerk A+A Training for the Minimalist | StrongFirst

After reaching timeless Simple in March of 2020, I decided to try out The Quick and the Dead (Q&D), while maintaining sport-specific training on the pushup which is part of my military testing. Pleased with the results of Q&D, I decided to continue with the program, but I had a problem. The book...

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[Luis T. Gonzalez]

Is there double kettlebell axe programming demystification within?

Here is another A+A option for Double kb Jerk and Snatch




-"On the minute" for 10 to 20 minutes -2-3 × a week

-Follow for 3-4 weeks Routine

Double Clean & Jerk + Snatch x 1 Perform "On the Minute" for 10 minutes.

Every session add 2 minutes until you reach 20 minutes.

Then Perform 2 reps "OTM" starting @10min. Repeat he process until 20 minutes is achieved.

After perform 3 reps "OTM" and repeat the process until 20 min. is achieved.Enjoy the pain!!!

 

[Adachi]

I wouldn't know. This was a question that wasn't answered in the AXE general discussion, because it required.. something like this product, I think was the jist of the answer given.

Edit: a hint that was given was that, iirc, Motz has been on AXE for several years, and his 3x lccj otm A+A sessions may be an AXE protocol.

I would submit to you that if your reps and sets are fitting the parameters and you are not meeting any stop signs that bring you out of spec, then it is axe.

(1-3, or 2-6) reps on the minute. Look to start off with 10-20 sets. take step loads and re test when it gets easy for a new step load . When you hit 30 sets, stick with it for a few weeks and test with the next bell size up as you would with a single bell.

 

[Luis T. Gonzalez]

3-6 reps on the minute.

This would be for single bell not doubles. Double kb would be 1-3 reps. Following about 15 seconds of work on the minute. 3-6 reps is too much of doubles for A+A type session.

 

[vojtakubi]

I have read many SF articles about endurance, QnD, AXE books multiple times (S&S maybe twice). For last 3 years im using QnD, 060, KBSF C&J and some bodyweight endurance plans from Newsletters and im happy with my results. SE express have a few chapters of content from what i have already read, but!!! There is also lot of gold nuggets and new details in this content. Other parts about metal heart, glycolitic power repeats, pushup/pullup endurance, programing are awesome.
Great explanation of how different protocols work and how to add variability. I already watched it, some parts twice.

 

[Denys Carthusian]

Just bought because attending in person, with the cost of flights, hotel, etc is insane. Hoping some day to hold someone from Strong First hostage and get them to cough up the nerd level biochemistry for me so I can impress all my friends at the monastery.