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Steve W. said:
The leopard reference seems like a dig at Q&D, which uses the leopard as a metaphor. Otherwise, why bring it up at all, since it makes no sense just in the context of the article?

I have no opinion on the actual program, but that line seems like unnecessary snark that would just be confusing to most readers who wouldn't get the reference.
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Tom is a Pavel fan, just like everyone here. I think he's spent time w. Pavel, just like many here.

Leopards seem to be a thing in the fitness industry lately, not just with Q&D (Starrett, et al). People need to lighten up a little and have a sense of humor about talking training imho.
 
IMHO SteveW's observations were spot on, and it doesn't really matter at whom the snark was directed; it only detracted from the article.

BTW, Steve Maxwell was a fan of and spent a lot of time with Pavel. Heard that podcast?
 
I have no qualms about questioning, criticizing, and sometimes even ridiculing StrongFirst orthodoxy and mythology when I think it's warranted.

And I only posted on this thread because @rwleonard had a question about the linked article, and I thought the answer was pretty clear, but the reply he received was dismissive of his question. I didn't even click through to Tom Furman's article until I saw this question about it and was curious about the context.

Ironically, I've even specifically and extensively criticized Pavel's leopard story from Q&D when it was used as a teaser in the promotional campaign before the release of the book. I have purchased no stock in leopards.
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I enjoy some good snark if it's clever and funny and makes a point I agree with, and I can still appreciate some good snark if it's clever and funny, even if it makes a point I disagree with (#Bill Been).

This one in the article I just thought was a miss.
 
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Some degree of arbitrariness and hyperbole is par for the course and perhaps inevitable in the world of fitness. No one who writes fitness/S&C programs is free from them.
 
@Boris Bachmann, I hope you're wrong.

If someone wishes to continue the discussion of snarky-ness, arbitrary-ness, fandom, hyperbole, leopard proverbs and the role of leopards in the world of fitness today, please start a new thread in the Everything Else section of the forum.

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TrailNRG said:
Try with bent knees or even kneeling. Also consider doing fewer reps ( 2-3 reps) based on feel for a few sets. Start very easy, doing less than you’re able to do, and stay consistent.
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Thanks.

I will try the next couple of weeks to just do it like yesterday and see if it changes anything.
It was the first time i tried the exercise. So maybe it get better :)
 
TedDK said:
Thanks.

I will try the next couple of weeks to just do it like yesterday and see if it changes anything.
It was the first time i tried the exercise. So maybe it get better :)
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Horizontal rows don't get enough respect, imo. When doing them with feet raised becomes easy, you can do your entire journey over again with one arm. And when that becomes easy you can start working tucked front levers... you know, rows with your legs held in the air. and not supported by anything!

I honestly find rows more beneficial to me than pull-ups. I don't get why everyone loves pull-ups so much.
 
Jason B. said:
Horizontal rows don't get enough respect, imo. When doing them with feet raised becomes easy, you can do your entire journey over again with one arm. And when that becomes easy you can start working tucked front levers... you know, rows with your legs held in the air. and not supported by anything!

I honestly find rows more beneficial to me than pull-ups. I don't get why everyone loves pull-ups so much.
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I love chins/pull-ups. But because of ten years without training i cant do ten. That Tom recommend you should be able to when using the exercise in AOW.
So maybe i will start loving horizontal rows. Too early to say.
 
Jason B. said:
Horizontal rows don't get enough respect, imo. When doing them with feet raised becomes easy, you can do your entire journey over again with one arm. And when that becomes easy you can start working tucked front levers... you know, rows with your legs held in the air. and not supported by anything!
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Agreed. I sometimes do horizontal rows on a TRX or from a pull-up bar w. grip implements attached to the pull-up bar w. nylon runners. There are a lot of variations that within reach for more people (than traditional pull-ups and variants).
 
I bought AOW.

Haven't run it as I have planned out my programmes for the next few years.

However I added it to my list & thought it sounded solid.

I think it would make a nice change from all my KB stuff at some point.

One thing I may implement sooner is the loaded hiking.
 
Cearball said:
I bought AOW.

Haven't run it as I have planned out my programmes for the next few years.

However I added it to my list & thought it sounded solid.

I think it would make a nice change from all my KB stuff at some point.

One thing I may implement sooner is the loaded hiking.
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Little tester today with 7.5kg in a backpack to the shops n back with a HR monitor.

Didn't go over 100BPM.

I feel I need to be hitting about 130 + BPM for some kind of training effect but I don't really want to go over 15kg with a backpack as I have done heavy pack hikes in the past & don't line loading up to that weight.

Maybe the marching won't quite be enough...?

IDK
 
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