Max.Sehr
Level 5 Valued Member
Hi All,
first of all i want to make clear that i dont want to accuse any program or the C&J to damage the ACL but rather want to ask a critical question, hear your opinions and experiences on this matter.
So 5 weeks ago i started the C&J program which was published by Pavel at the Strongfirst Article section. Since then i have made good progress and used the single C&J with the 28kg. In addition to the 2 C&J days i practiced S&S on the following day. At week 4 into the program i followed the program and had a deload week with the 20kg and only 2/3 of the previous time. Also, soccer pre-season training started in week 4 which was another reason to deload in this week. Also, i only did C&Js in this week as my general fitness really increased doing these.
However, at the end of the week we had our first match and i tore my ACL during the first half of the game during decceleration from a sprint. So i searched the forum to look for some ACL rehab experiences using the Strongfirst methodology and came upon this quote from Mike Perry:
So im very interested to hear some expert opinions on this. Note that im no expert and am just wondering about this.
Kind regards,
Max
first of all i want to make clear that i dont want to accuse any program or the C&J to damage the ACL but rather want to ask a critical question, hear your opinions and experiences on this matter.
So 5 weeks ago i started the C&J program which was published by Pavel at the Strongfirst Article section. Since then i have made good progress and used the single C&J with the 28kg. In addition to the 2 C&J days i practiced S&S on the following day. At week 4 into the program i followed the program and had a deload week with the 20kg and only 2/3 of the previous time. Also, soccer pre-season training started in week 4 which was another reason to deload in this week. Also, i only did C&Js in this week as my general fitness really increased doing these.
However, at the end of the week we had our first match and i tore my ACL during the first half of the game during decceleration from a sprint. So i searched the forum to look for some ACL rehab experiences using the Strongfirst methodology and came upon this quote from Mike Perry:
Seeing this i wondered if high rep C&Js may be dangerous if used in combination with track&field sports? Because during the initial dip to propell the KB upward and the decelleration phase where you catch the KB from the top is basically a partial squat in the range of 15-30° right? So we create a lot of shear force on the ACL which may be dangerous if continued repeatedly?...Another thing to consider is swing style. You may need more or less knee flexion to take some of the load off of the ACL.
Between 15-30 degrees of knee flexion is where the most amount of shear force is on the ACL ( hence why partial squats are terrible for it ) so you may need to tweak your technique...
So im very interested to hear some expert opinions on this. Note that im no expert and am just wondering about this.
Kind regards,
Max