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Unless I’m reading it wrong, there are typos in the programming PDF. The total reps stated should actually be the per-arm totals (?)
 
They are. You could think of it as a hybrid between the 2 (or to some extent like AGT S&S). The part that comes after swings/TGU is of course not related to S&S at all (I guess it comes straight out of Strong Endurance).

The programming is concise and clear, but contains enough work for a long time (the SF WOD I guess).
The video production is good, the video content is very well presented.
Overall it’s a very solid offering for people who have no real idea how to train, it brings you through potentially a lifetime of training, entirely based on SF principles and its most succesful ideas

the key here is the “no real idea bit”. Pavel / SF veterans will probably know most of what is presented and be used to the programming (there are no surprises), but I think that is why it is marketed where it is rather than here
 
ClaudeR said:
They are. You could think of it as a hybrid between the 2 (or to some extent like AGT S&S). The part that comes after swings/TGU is of course not related to S&S at all (I guess it comes straight out of Strong Endurance).

The programming is concise and clear, but contains enough work for a long time (the SF WOD I guess).
The video production is good, the video content is very well presented.
Overall it’s a very solid offering for people who have no real idea how to train, it brings you through potentially a lifetime of training, entirely based on SF principles and its most succesful ideas

the key here is the “no real idea bit”. Pavel / SF veterans will probably know most of what is presented and be used to the programming (there are no surprises), but I think that is why it is marketed where it is rather than here
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That last point strikes a chord with me.
 
sizzlefuzz said:
Can confirm they are excellent BUT... a lot of BJJ people don't actually like strength training, though and often say "because Marcelo Garcia didn't lift weights, neither should they".
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I think you would find Marcelo Garcia to be QUITE strong. Strength training with Strongfirst principles is a great supplement but grappling as a lifestyle is gonna make you incredibly strong.
 
thomas schmitzer said:
Who said anything about off days? :)
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Off days are not what they're used to be. During my off day yesterday I foolishly agreed to video record my high school boy running up a trail for his Video and Film class. By the time he was satisfied with the short takes, my Garmin Instinct showed I ascended 85 floors!!!!
 
thomas schmitzer said:
I think you would find Marcelo Garcia to be QUITE strong. Strength training with Strongfirst principles is a great supplement but grappling as a lifestyle is gonna make you incredibly strong.
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Sort of goes back to the old 1% pro versus 99% amateur divide. Amateurs are really where it's at, and I sure think a lot of them could use a strength boost, haha! :)
 
thomas schmitzer said:
I think you would find Marcelo Garcia to be QUITE strong. Strength training with Strongfirst principles is a great supplement but grappling as a lifestyle is gonna make you incredibly strong.
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Clearly, as Mark Rippetoe (I think?) says "world champions are strong".
 
Sean M said:
Unless I’m reading it wrong, there are typos in the programming PDF. The total reps stated should actually be the per-arm totals (?)
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I looked at the program and there are no typos.

it was more of a clarification scenario than a typo.
 
Mikeperry said:
I looked at the program and there are no typos.

it was more of a clarification scenario than a typo.
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Page 15 the 2nd and 4th bullet points do not agree with each other

Page 16 3rd and 4th bullet points do not agree with each other
 
Friends-

When you see 6-12 RM, that's your working KB weight. This is the load, not reps. Follow the reps as written.

Sorry for any confusion!!
 
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Mikeperry said:
Friends-

When you see 6-12 RM, that's your working KB weight. This is the load, not reps. Follow the reps as written.

Sorry for any confusion!!
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Sorry to disagree... (not on RM obviously)
Page 16 Plan A bullet 2 says to do reps every 30 seconds, yes?
Bullet 4 says to do this for 30 mins.
In 30 mins there are 60 30-second periods, hence 60 sets (30 per arm). But bullet 4 says 15 sets per arm

so either the “every 30 seconds” instruction is wrong, or the 15 per arm is wrong

similar thing on the next page
 
barrak said:
So that's what they are! I've been wondering ever since I got my ETK book.

I've been using prAna Zion pants for the last couple of years.
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I think I got a pair of the last batch of SF-branded 5.11 Tactical pants sold in the site. I'm definitely looking into these, since I can't get them anymore (and I got fat).

Kozushi said:
In my own case, my kettlebelling is to complement my martial arts in a very different way. I don't think martial arts is enough exercise, nor is it healthily balanced exercise. Martial arts training is for winning at martial arts and not for a strong physique, nor good posture. A way to understand this is to consider that shooting a rifle is a martial art, but where is the exercise?
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Funny thing, I also teach basic handgun, and for one student we used some of the same principles with kettlebell training. Essentially we were working on pistol qual and S&S.
 
Machete said:
Funny thing, I also teach basic handgun, and for one student we used some of the same principles with kettlebell training. Essentially we were working on pistol qual and S&S.
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I sure could've benefited from a few weeks of kettlebell swings back in 1991. After the Desert Storm ceasefire, we came across an abandoned position with ammo and assorted weapons including a 0.50-caliber. We decided to spend an afternoon having fun in the middle of the desert. The darn 0.50-cal trigger was too stiff for me to push down with my thumbs! I was demoted to AK-47 detail.
 
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