Other/Mixed Navigating supplements for performance

[silveraw]

This is largely unrelated but at one time years back Jamie Lewis (NSFW!) created a supplement line. His premise was human tissue was the perfect food apart from that pesky problem of eating people being frowned upon in most cultures, so he recreated the nutritional profile and made it into a protein powder.

Can’t remember what he called it… cannibal something. At some point he and his partner had a falling out and he seemed to get the short of it. Don’t know anything more than that.

Yeah I don’t know details but it’s the reason he doesn’t blog on chaos n pain anymore and has plague of strength now.

I think he learned a lot about predatory business contracts during that deal.

 

[bluejeff]

Would anyone care to enlighten me about proper use of the word "vitamin" in the context of "supplement" and "performance-enhancing drug?" I take a few of what I consider to be vitamins and have never thought of them as supplements - not really sure what is meant by "supplement." I take a "multi-vitamin", a combination vitamin D and vitamin K, and potassium.

-S-

You can supplement with vitamins to meet reccomended daily intakes, but not all supplements are vitamins.

Many vitamins have the word "vitamin" in their common name. Some don't. It's easy to find a list though:

Listing of vitamins - Harvard Health

Get an understanding of how particular vitamins and minerals work in your body, how much of each nutrient you need daily, and what types of foods to eat to ensure that you are getting an adequate s...

www.health.harvard.edu

You can also easily find recommended intakes of minerals, such as potassium, magnesium, sodium, etc

 

[silveraw]

Could be, but I’m not sure.

That stuff was my first experience with accidentally taking amphetemines.

Worked well, don’t recommend.

 

[Hung]

I will steal this, and act like I came up with it.

Ped = performance enhaching denim aka old type of bench shirt/squat suit etc...
Don't think that would be helpful for BJJ though

 

[Ege]

Would anyone care to enlighten me about proper use of the word "vitamin" in the context of "supplement" and "performance-enhancing drug?" I take a few of what I consider to be vitamins and have never thought of them as supplements - not really sure what is meant by "supplement." I take a "multi-vitamin", a combination vitamin D and vitamin K, and potassium.

-S-

For the records Steve is not natural hahaha

 

[Hung]

Steve is not natural

I knew it!

 

[Bill Lets]

Good video. All of this information can be found at ConsumerLabs. ConsumerLabs tests just about everything. What the un-enhanced guy spoke about is basically copy and paste.

ConsumerLabs provides good information with subscription.

 

[Steve Freides]

not all supplements are vitamins

But are all vitamins supplements?

-S-

 

[Steve Freides]

For the records Steve is not natural hahaha

I've often been called not normal, but 'not natural' - now there's a first for me.

-S-

 

[John K]

But are all vitamins supplements?

-S-

No. Vitamins are only supplements when they are removed from their "natural" context. For instance, Vitamin D3 is not a supplement - it is made by your body in response to sun. Vitamin B12 naturally is found in animal products. In both these cases, they are not supplements.

 

[oab]

In regard to "supplements":
The original idea was that you got your diet right and then to remedy short comings you supplemented your diet. This means you must get your diet right and also do some maths or use an app that estimates your dietary shortcomings so you can then add a sensible dose of the individual vitamins, minerals, macros that you need more of.

 

[Steve Freides]

No. Vitamins are only supplements when they are removed from their "natural" context. For instance, Vitamin D3 is not a supplement - it is made by your body in response to sun. Vitamin B12 naturally is found in animal products. In both these cases, they are not supplements.

So protein powder is a supplement? (I'm asking just to better understand the language of these things.)

-S-

 

[John K]

So protein powder is a supplement? (I'm asking just to better understand the language of these things.)

-S-

It is a supplement. Both protein powder and vitamins-you-take are added to your diet in order to fix or prevent a deficiency. Protein and vitamins found in foods are not supplements as they are your diet. Although we commonly simply refer to them as supplements, the FDA term is "dietary supplement," emphasizing exactly what they are supplementing - your diet. A pill or powder is not considered "part of your diet," and so are supplements to it.

 

[bluejeff]

But are all vitamins supplements?

-S-

@John K answered this very well; vitamins are supplements if you are supplementing your diet with them Same with protein powder.

 

[Denys Carthusian]

Vitamin B12 naturally is found in animal products. In both these cases, they are not supplements.

Due to my genetics, I supplement B12 via injection once a month.

 

[Boris Bachmann]

That stuff was my first experience with accidentally taking amphetemines.

Worked well, don’t recommend.

I'd probably have a good workout on meth too, but I don't recommend it.

 

[silveraw]

I'd probably have a good workout on meth too, but I don't recommend it.

Yeah, I stay away from preworkout as a rule since then. Or really any stimulant supplement.

If you want caffeine grab a coffee. Starbucks hasn't dosed anyone with meth AFAIK.

 

[silveraw]

I've often been called not normal, but 'not natural' - now there's a first for me.

-S-

Welcome to the club!

 

[Don Fairbanks]

Would anyone care to enlighten me about proper use of the word "vitamin" in the context of "supplement" and "performance-enhancing drug?" I take a few of what I consider to be vitamins and have never thought of them as supplements - not really sure what is meant by "supplement." I take a "multi-vitamin", a combination vitamin D and vitamin K, and potassium.

-S-

FYI, quality cream of tartar is a nice source of potassium.

 

[Steve Freides]

FYI, quality cream of tartar is a nice source of potassium.

What _is_ cream of tartar? I've never known.

A banana and potassium supplements/vitamins/drugs are my usual sources for potassium.

-S-