Podcast Episode #23: Brett Jones

StrongFirst Podcast Episode #23


Brett Jones, Director of Education for StrongFirst, joins the show a second time to talk about his use of Indian clubs, nail bending, and powerlifting. Brett talks to your host Craig Marker about his current training to achieve the sinister goal.

Show Notes

01:35 – Brett talks about his background in athletic training and his mentors in that space.

06:50 – How the Brettzel, the Brettzel 2.0, and the Brettzel 3.0 exercises came to be and what they are.

08:10 – Brett’s work in FMS and Indian clubs.

11:00 – The differences between training with heavier and lighter clubs.

13:21 – Brett’s history with grip work, nail bending training, and strength work.

18:00 – About pinch grips and deadlifts.

19:15 – Why specialty training and grip training is important, but kettlebells can take you a good bit of the way.

20:25 – Loaded carries.

24:32 – The importance of foot position in squats.

27:25 – Brett’s current training goals.

28:56 – How Brett is approaching the sinister standard and the biggest change he’s made in training.

30:50 – Brett’s thoughts on structure and switching things up.

32:00 – The problem with the “get up and grind” mentality.

34:09 – What’s on Brett’s current reading list.

35:20 – How Brett thinks of the wedge when he’s teaching it to people.

37:55 – How a strength professional builds more tension to increase the wedge.

Key Points:

  • Kettlebell can take you a long way, but specialty training is still important.
  • Foot position is important, and hip position anomalies are extremely common.
  • Always err on the side of more rest rather than less.

Resources Mentioned

Simple and Sinister

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Craig Marker
Craig Marker, Ph.D. CSCS, StrongFirst Certified Senior Instructor Emeritus, is a fitness enthusiast who has spent his life trying to help people improve their lives. As a professor, he works with students on how best to understand research and place it into context. He has published over fifty articles, chapters, and textbooks on psychology and research methods.

As a researcher, he understands the cutting edge of strength, sports performance, body composition, and nutrition. As a psychologist, he has focused on research and treatment of anxiety disorders, which positions him to understand the motivation and the fear of making life changes.

Craig’s upcoming book, the The Antifragile Self, takes on the topic of building a stronger person in the mental and physical domains.

As a StrongFirst Certified Elite Instructor, Craig views kettlebells as one tool in the trade of forging a better person.

Visit his intentional community in Atlanta: Strength.University.
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2 thoughts on “Podcast Episode #23: Brett Jones

  • I’ve listened to a few of these podcasts and I’m not sure if this is the one where I heard this, but as Brett is director of education, it seems an appropriate place to ask.

    The algorithm behind Plan Strong is turning out to be more versatile than expected, and had been used with Strong Endurance, and may be used as the basis for a nutrition programme. This reminds me a lot of what happens in complexity theory. A model will be developed for, say, ecology, which then turns out to have applications in neurology, climate dynamics, the formation of galaxies, or some other equally complex system. Is it possible Plan Strong has similarly discovered some underlying principle that might be relevent not just throughout physical culture, but beyond it?

    • I agree that the basic principles can be applied to other areas. I was just reading an article about measuring attention. The same idea of resources, adaptation, rest, glucose utilization, and other ideas came into play.

      And you correct, that Brett is the Director of Education.

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